FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE

2007-12-27T12:21:00.000-08:00

Overview of God's 7 angel-agents who execute the Seal,Trump,
and Vial plagues in the last half of the Great Tribulation.
Note: For clarity I will be using (for example) "7" for seven.

The first 4 of the 7 angels are the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse,
and they are renowned as riders of destiny, they rode in the past,
where God used them to punish evil men and nations, and they
will ride again in the last half of the tribulation. The horses are
symbolic, but John did see them as 3D images, red, white, etc.,

John saw in vision 7 angels executing first the 7-seals followed by
the 7-Trumps, then the 7-Vials. Now just because John saw things
in a certain order does not mean that they will happen on earth in
the same order. For example, Let's say that God, through a pro-
phet, told a woman that in a 7 year period, she was going to have
4 girls and 3 boys. And, sure enough, in 7 years she had 4 girls,
and 3 boys. Did she have them in that sequence? No! She had 2
girls, then 1 boy, 1 more girl, 2 boys, and 1 more girl. So the tell-
ing part is 4 girls and 3 boys, but the action part is 2+1+1+2+1.

The sequence view of 7 Seals, followed by 7 trumps, then 7 vials,
held by most, does not work because it places three of the four
obvious last day events from 1 to 3 1/2 years before the last
day. I believe God showed John the vision in this sequence to
simplify it, as with the woman with 4 girls and 3 boys.

Before continuing I would like to state that anyone who has done
extensive study on the seals, trumps, and vials, and maybe has
written books or made charts on this topic has had to speculate
to a very high degree. This is very complex and not really that
important to us at this time. However, we should study this now,
because when these events begin to unfold we will then be able to
put it together. Our opinions and interpretations should never be
set in concrete, God will continue to reveal more details as we pay
attention to end time events. ___The following is my opinion:

I will begin by saying the 7 angels (angels are spirits) that stood
before God's throne in Rev.1:4, Rev.4:5, Rev.5:6 (horn is symbolic
for king or leader, these angels are leaders, see Rev.17:12) notice
that God sends these 7 spirits (angel-agents) unto all the earth;
yes, the same 7 that execute the plagues in the last 3 1/2 years...
Remember, there are only 7 angels that execute all 21 of God's
judgement plagues, so each was given a seal, a trump and a vial, 3
plagues each, each in turn, on-going until the end of the 3 1/2 yrs,
including the Last Day. You will notice that by using this rotation
system, all 4 of the last day events, are on the last day:

Listed below is one of several ways these events could unfold,
and after this I've listed the sequence view; held by most:

                     All verses quoted are KJV, for in instant reference in the
                     English Standard Version, place cursor on chapter/verse

........................drama #1 ......... drama #2 ............. drama #3
.........................Seals ...............Trumps ...............Vials

.......................Rev.6:1-2..........Rev.8:7..............Rev.16:2
...................... 1st Seal .......... 1st Trump ........... 1st Vial
1st Angel........Conquering........hail & fire..............sores on men
on ..White...... probably ..........1/3rd trees............that had the
.......Horse........Michael..............burnt up...............mark of beast
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........................ Rev.6:3-4 ...........Rev.8:8-9............Rev.16:3
.........................2nd Seal...........2nd Trump..........2nd Vial
2nd Angel.......men kill.............1/3rd of sea............all of sea
........Red...........each other...........became.................became
........Horse........ [blood].............. [like] blood......... [like] blood
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....................... Rev.6:5-6 ............ Rev.8:10-11 ......... Rev.16:4-7
...................... ...3rd Seal..........3rd Trump..........3rd Vial
3rd Angel.........famine..............1/3 of rivers............rivers
....... Black .........rations..............fountains...............fountains
........Horse...................................poisoned...............[like] blood
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........................ Rev.6:7-8 .......... Rev.8:12-13 ........ Rev.16:8-9
..........................4th Seal..........4th Trump..........4th Vial
4th Angel.........kill with............1/3 sun dark.........burnt men
........Pale...........sword and ......woe,woe,woe.......with heat
........Horse..........hunger............ for 3 Angels.........and they
................................................... yet to sound ........ cursed God

The 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse have executed the first 12
of God's 21 judgment plagues, and will never have to ride again.
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Now entering the last 3 Angels, that the above 4th Angel warned
the world about, each with a trumpet woe, along with a seal and
a vial (the remaining 9 plagues). Remember, true Christians are
'sealed' (protected), as we were from the plagues of the previous 4.

......................... Rev.6:9-11 ......... Rev.9:1-12 ......... Rev.16:10-11
.........................5th Seal..........5th Trump.............5th Vial
5th Angel.......souls under......bottomless pit......darkness, pains
.........................altar, given.......locusts sting..........& sores, men
.........................white robes.......men with mark......repented not
..........................how long?........ 1st woe ................cursed God
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Remember, the seals, trumps, and vials are not in sequence, like the 4
girls and 3 boys. See the three paragraphs in blue, near the end of this.

................. Rev.9:13-21 ....... Rev.16:12-16 ...... Rev.6:12-17
......................6th Trump...........6th Vial ...... 6th seal
6th Angel..... Euphrates .......... Euphrates .....   Start of .
..................... angels loose ...... dried up .......... Last Day
...................... 1/3 men killed ...."I Come ........ Earthquake
...................... those left ............ as a thief" .... Day of wrath
.................... repented not ........ Rapture         has come
.....................2nd woe ........... Armageddon      Last Day
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                        Rev.8:1-5           Rev.16:17-21        Rev.11:15-19
@@@@@@7th seal @@@ 7th. vial @@@@7th trump
7th Angel @silence in@@ voice from @@Kingdom has
@@@@@@ heaven @@@the throne, @@ come. Day
@@@@@@ 1/2 hour. @@"it is done"@@@ of wrath.
@@@@ Earthquake @@ Earthquake @@ Earthquake
@@@@@@Last Day @@@ Last Day @@@ Last Day
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 3rd woe

I believe Christians are taken out at the 6th Vial, at the beginning of
the Last Day, then we will return with Him at the end of this day at
the 2nd coming of Christ at the Last Trump...

And we will be above the earth for all of this day standing "on" the
sea of glass, Rev.15:2 KJV, (it looked like a huge plate of glass).
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Below is how these events would come out...

if they were listed in sequence (as most believe), of the 7 seals,
followed by the 7 trumps then the 7 vials. As you will see there
are major problems that are not consistent with God's word.

Remember now, there are only 7 angels that execute the
21 plagues (Rev.1:4, Rev.4:5, and Rev.5:6). So each of the 7,
have a Seal, a Trump, and a Vial, the same as my above chart.
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The 7 Angels execute the 7 Seals in sequence, (drama #1):

1st Seal, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th.... no problem, but now notice
what takes place at the 6th Seal:

6th Seal: (Rev.6:12-17)
Great Earthquake _ Sun becomes black _
Great day of His wrath has come...

This 6th Seal is a last day event, as is the 7th Seal, and they
both can't take place three years before the last day. ____________________________________________

Next the same 7 Angels deliver the 7 Trumps, (drama #2):

1st Trump, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th.....no problem, now notice
what takes place at the 7th Trump:

7th Trump, (Rev.11:15,18,19):
The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of
our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever.

Thy wrath is come...time to give rewards to the prophets
and to the saints...an earthquake and great hail.

The 7th Trump should be (and will be) the last event, at the
end of the last day, this is obviously the beginning of the 1,000
year reign, 7 Vials cannot follow this!!
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However..... most believe they do......

So, here are the same 7 Angels with the 7 Vials, (drama #3):

1st Vial, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and then the 7th Vial:

7th Vial: (Rev.16:17-21)
A voice saying it is done _ Great Earthquake _ Hail ...

This Vial is also a last day event, but can not take place
before the 7th Trump, (read the above 7th Trump events.

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Now a brief recap of the 3 dramas as presented on my main chart
(not as presented in the faulty above list), and more on drama #4:

Drama #1. The 7 Angels with the 7 seals. Rev.6:1, to 8:5.

Drama #2. The 7 Angels with the 7 trumpets. Rev.8:6, to 12:1.

Drama #3. The 7 Angels with the 7 vials. Rev.15:1, to 16:21.

Drama #4. The temple, throne and altar drama, which I will.
.................call the "Heaven Drama", and is on-going through.
.................Revelation chp.4:1, to the end of Revelation.

The seal, trump, and vial, dramas (on my main chart) along with
the heaven drama, all go along together, it is one story, all four
dramas should be superimposed over each other. (cover later).

In short the 3 earth dramas are on-going from Rev.6:1, to 6:19.
The heaven dramas (temple, throne, altar), Rev.4:1, to Rev.22.
They are all on-going at the same time, and are different parts
of the same story, filling in different details, as was common
among ancient authors. To present these 4 dramas moving along
at the same time would be too overwhelming to read or compre-
hend. I will go into this in detail later on.

I will briefly cover the heaven drama #4, that moves along
with the 3 earth dramas This one opens in Rev.4:1, John sees
in a vision that a door was opened in heaven, then in v-3, he
sees the awesome Almighty God, sitting on a great throne.
And in verses 4 to 8, he sees God's government in heaven:

First is the Godhead, God the Father, God the Son, and God the
Holy Spirit. Secondly, is the four living creatures called cheribim,
close to the throne. Thirdly, the 24 elders farther out, fourthly
the 7 great archangels out farther in front of the throne. Yes, the
same 7 angels that deliver the seals, trumps and vials.

I will try to analyze the funtions of these officials, (the best that I
can). First is the great King of the total universe (God the Father).
Second, His Son the Word and great Prince over the angel's and
all of the kings of the earth,(God the Son). Third, God the Holy
Spirit who is high manager of the universe, He knows what the
Father and Son want and either acts on it or passes orders on to
the four cheribim. They in turn, delegate the 7 archangels to
oversee the affairs of the earth. (my opinion)

Now I will go into detail, as best as I can, on God's 7 angels that
He will use to deliver the seals, trumps and vials. First I want to
make it clear that angels are spirits (Ps.104:4, Heb 1:13-14), and
they have form, because they are seen. In the beginning of the
book of Revelation we first see the 7-angels in Rev 1:4,
"....seven spirits (angel persons), which are before God's throne."
Many say this is the 7-fold spirit of God. No such thing because
7-spirits isplural, and a 7-fold spirit would be like saying God
needs a larger Spirit. God's Spirit is omniscent, Deity and can't
be enlarged.

So, these 7-spirits (angels) standing before His throne in Rev 1:4,
are OF GOD, belonging TO GOD. And now go to Rev 4:5,
these 7-spirits (angel's) ,were standing before God's throne,"
...in the midst of the throne...was Jesus, having [with Him]
7 horns and 7 eyes, which are the 7-spirits (angels) of God. God
has now delegated the 7-spirits (angels) to Jesus. "Horn" means
leader or king (Rev 17:12, Dan 8:20), and 7 eyes meaning all
knowing, because they represent God. So, I have just shown you
that "spirits" are persons, and "horns" are persons. In fact, Jesus
said in John 4:24, "God is a spirit.." However, all spirits have form.

Three verses after the above throne scene of Rev 5:6, Jesus
in v-9, opens the book with the seals and delegates this to the
7-angels that were standing before God's throne earlier. However
it dosn't say that Jesus gives the 7-angels anything, so the seals,
trumps and vials had already been given to the 7-angels when
they were standing before God's throne earlier. These were
probably all symbolic anyway, so what God gave them was the
authority to execute these plagues at a time that Jesus so chooses.

However in Rev 8:2, it says the 7-angels were given 7-trumpets,
but it also says they got the trumpets when they stood before
God, which they had done earlier in Rev 1:4, 4:5, 5:6, and
these 3 verses were when they actually did stand before God.
So, I believe Rev 8:2, was John getting a flash back, and was in
retrospect to when John saw them standing before God earlier.

Also the above is true about the 7 vials in Rev 15:1, this seems
to verify the retrospect idea, because this verse states that the 7-
angels already had the 7 vials, and down a few verses to Rev.15:6
it states again they already have these 7 vials, and the next verse,
Rev.15:7 says the "four living creatures gave unto the 7 angels the
7 vials full of the wrath of God." And this was after twice stating
they already had them? And they did, because they were given
to them earlier by the four living creatures when, they too, were
standing before God in the earlier event described in the three
verses of Rev 1:4, Rev.4:5, and Rev.5:6. I feel certain that these
two events of giving the trumps and vials were both in retrospect
to when the 7-angels stood before God earlier.

I apologize for the redundancy of the above three paragraphs,
but understanding this is the only way the seals, trumps, and vials,
will ever be consistant with Gods word. Remember, John was
seeing visions and flashbacks of visions, and later on, as he was
writing all of this down, he was flashing back to the earlier event,
and we can be certain that he also, did not understand. When the
prophet Daniel was shown several visions and heard many things,
he said he didn't understand. And he was told that it wasn't for
him to understand, but at the time of the end the wise shall under-
stand (Dan.12:8-9). And now in our time as we are seeing some
end time events unfolding (Israel a nation again, etc), God will
continue to reveal more details so we will understand. There isn't
one person on this earth that has it all together.

And John also described the ocean being turned into blood when
in fact, God will probably turn it into a red tide (this also kills life).
And he said stars were crashing into the earth, when in fact, these
are meteors. The visual part of dreams and visions are somewhat
unclear, but in this case the important part is the message that
God is conveying to John (and to us), is in the form of a puzzle
that we have to put together so that it conforms to God's word,
which I believe my chart does. Remember, Revelation, Daniel,
(and other books), were written with the heavy use of symbols,
and Jesus taught with parables. We have to figure it out!!

Now back to drama #4, (heaven drama) that opens in Rev.chp.4
and 5, then at chp.6, the 3 earth dramas of the seals, trumps and
vials begin, and at this time the archangel Michael in Rev.12:7,
and his angel army, sweeps the "dragon" government of Satan
and his bad angel's out of the air heaven, and down to the earth.
God and His hosts move down into the air heaven to control the
devil and the A.C. system thats on earth at this time, (Rev 12:10).
The above event (Satan cast down to earth), starts the last half of
the tribulation, and at this same time (Rev 7:2) John sees an angel
ascending from the east, holding back the 4-angels (4-horsemen),
until the servants of God have been sealed. God's wrath does
not fall on us, only those who have the mark (Rev.16:2).Those
who do not have the seal of God. "...after you believed, you were
sealed (Eph.1:13).

Then (Rev 7:4-8) after the 144,000 have been sealed, (protected
from God's wrath) along with us, as is evident in Rev 7:9-14. Only
then is the 1st of the four horsemen, the angel on the white horse,
let loose by Jesus' opening of the 1st Seal, to execute this 1st
plague on those who do not have the seal of God. It would be
redundant at this point to list each of the 7-angels involvement in
the execution of all of the 21 plagues. Suffice it to say that each
of the 7-angels has a seal, trump, and a vial, and they execute
them in that order, 3 plagues each, each in turn, starting at the
beginning of the last 3 1/2 years, which happens at Rev 6:1.

Also at Rev 6:1, Satan and his angels are cast down to the earth,
(Rev 12:7). And we know for sure the two witnesses start their
ministry at this same time (last 3 1/2 yrs), because Rev.11:3,says
God's two witnesses will preach 1,260 days (3 1/2 yrs), because
of this we now know for certain that Rev 11:1 overlaps back to
Rev. 6:1 (the beginning of the last 3 1/2 years). And we know
for certain that Rev.7:3 also overlaps back to Rev.6:1 because
Rev.6:1-12, states that 6 of the seal plagues had already been
carried out when, in fact, they were not, because Rev.7:1-3,
says these angel's were held back (from executing their plagues)
until, the servants of God have been sealed (Rev.7:3).

So, the above paragraph proves for certain that:

Rev chp 7, has to happen at the same time as Rev chp 6.
Rev chp 11, also has to happen at the same time as Rev chp 6.

And Rev chps 7, and 11, are not the only chapters that goes
back to Rev.6:1, they all do up to Rev chp 19, its one story
with many different layers, each with new details, all going back
to Rev.6:1, except the heaven drama goes back to Rev.4:1, all
four dramas (seal, trump, vial, and heaven) , are all one story
being added to like layers of paint, one on top of the other, each
with different details mixed in, because its too overwhelming to
tell this story with all of the dramas going along at the same time.

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The two witnesses:
Rev.11:3-19, v-4 "And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall preach 3 1/2 yrs..." So, this would put them at the
start of the last 3 1/2 years to the end. These two would have to
be flesh and blood men because just 3 1/2 days before the great
earthquake on the last day, they are killed by the AC (Rev.11:7)
So the fact they can be killed proves they are not spirits (Moses
and Elijah). And if anyone tries to hurt them they can kill their
enemies with fire, and they can plague any part of the earth. God
does allow these two to be killed when there are just 3 1/2 days
left, and the world rejoices over this event, and they leave their
dead bodies laying in the city of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days.

And after 3 1/2 days the spirit of life from God entered into them,
and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell on the people
that saw this. And then they heard a great voice saying unto them,
"Come up here." And in the same hour there was a great earth-
quake (the 1st of the 4 earthquakes that happen on the Last Day.
And (hours later) Rev.11:15 "And the 7th angel sounded; and
there were voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world
are become the kingdoms of our lord, and of His Christ; and he
shall reign for ever and ever." This, of course, is the beginning of
the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth.

The Beasts of Perdition....

that make up the 4th endtime A.C. kingdom, is described
by John in Rev.13:1-2, to be a single beast, that is made
up of three beasts, but it looked like a leopard, only it
had the feet of a bear, and the mouth of a lion. This end-
time kingdom will be ruled by the Antichrist and will be
centered in the middle east. And will come to power in
the exact same geographical land area as the old Alexan-
derian empire encompassed, and is represented by the
symbolic leopard that is described by John in Rev.13:1-2

Go to..... Endtime Beast Empire

Go to..... The Second Coming Of Christ

Questions? Roger .... lassenview@gmail.com

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